OHEY OHEY PEOPLE, NEW IDEA FOR A BIG CHANGE

I just got an idea, I'd like to remove the concept of having predefined characters ( or classes ) , and let you people make your own class

So what do I mean by that, am I planning on making this an MMORPG and implementing a grinding system?

No I am not, but what I'd like to do is to give YOU the possibility to make your own character
and how is it going to work?

Pretty simple, just like in all mmorpgs there will be a character screen, BUT like I said it won't be a mmo so you will be able to change the character whenever you want to.
As for skills and items , there will be a list of weapons to choose from, all weapons will be balanced , balanced in a way that you can make your own techniques and strategic moves.

So at the end the game will look like this:

You login, you see server list and lobby chat as usual but there will also be a new button called ' configure characters', you will have lets say 3 characters to configure.
You click on one character, you will get redirected to the character customization screen where you will be able to change his clothes and choose his weapons & his skills.
You will be given a number of points for each character, like lets say 10, each weapon will have its own cost of points, also your character speed increase will also cost you points etc... well you get the idea

Once you configured your characters , you can enter any game and play as them ( you choose one of the three ones, just like now but instead of predefined there will be your own ones that you made ), all other people will see your custom character and you theirs aswell

I'd like to know what you people think about that

I'm ALL for it!

Remember to add customization and colors, so you can make your own look :D

HUUGGGEE ! i wan't it !

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Sounds pretty awesome mate. Really bring the game into its own, separate from generic -
Uses weapons mainly warrior guy.
Stealthy ninja assassin dude.
I wiggle my hands and magic happens person.

^^ look forward to the changes.

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Well...
I think i'll be alone or one of the rare people who doesn't like it...
You couldn't know how to kill someone or how to prevent you from his attacks.
A way to always win could be found.
It won't only depends on your skills.

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You 're not the only one, hey, hey, hey, you 're not the only one...

The vocation's aim is to prevent from too high unequivalence beween each player.
For instance, a huge Nerd would spend hours and hours balancing his character instead of playing. The game would be retrograde to a mathematics problem and won't be anymore a skilled game.

But a "dress-deck" getting larger and larger with your level/stats/or some sort of thing increasing would be more funny.

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Ce que l'arme est �  la musique.

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I've had a long chat with tomhb, and I now see , doing that would completely ruin the skill-based gameplay cause you won't know what enemy you're facing, but just like you said SaintUhr, a dress-deck won't hurt, it'll just make you look fancier in front of other newbie players =P

=)

So that's a no? You can't be serious... you want things to be predictable? that's not skill... that's lame. Skill is knowing how to beat your enemy with whatever you have to utilize versus what your opponent has and uses himself. Assuming damage calculations are accurate, this would totally work.

Aww fuck

Predict me.

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Predict me? What am I some sort of a fortune teller? "Predict my Next Post" ? What the hell?

What do you mean? If we're in a game, I don't know what you're playing, and then I see you, I'd run to prepare to fight. Simple as that. Climb up a wall and get away, pull my weapon out, and kill you...

Now, if you had a bunch of different weapons, I wouldn't know which one you would use, so to counter it I would switch to different weapons too.

What's your point? I know, Mr. Tomhb is against the whole concept because of your little idea of balance becoming ruined.

Explain to me how MMORPG games and FPS games come by with interchangeable weapons? They're not exactly PRESET to a single class.

FPS...
In CS for example, you just have to buy weapons which you don't keep.
There isn't any class. The only thing you can choose is T or CT...
Used weapons are always the same. Who uses the machinegun ?
You know you're facing a distance-fighter... The guy won't rush you with a knife...
The skills in a FPS is important because you have to be very precise.
In such a game, you need some precision and knowledge to win.
Like, what to use in such a situation etc.

MMORPG...
Weapons aren't interchangeable. You need much time to change your weapon.
Attacks differences come from the different classes.
And, you always know which class your adversary has... Then, you know if he's a healer, a dps, a tank... So, you can know his weakness...
Where would be the strategy if you don't know how to defeat your adversaries ?
W/out strategy, skill would still exist, but luck would be much more important.

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I like the idea of being able to pick the set up of your own class and the ability to customise its appearance but i don't like the idea of players grinding to get better weapons/abilities. I thinks it would destable the gameplay.

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Ok, so the customisable character idea is scrapped.

I think changing clothes using points you get from winning would be cool, though.

What?

Wait I don't get it...

How is a warrior equipped with one ranged, one defensive, and one special ability like crossbow, 2h polearm, and trap, going to screw up balance versus a mage who has mana shield to stop ranged weapons, lightning bolts, and a pillar of AoE damage? explain?

Each weapon can be countered with a weapon that the warrior uses.

It's so easy to do... just make it so people can't pick all 3 ranged weapons. One slot for melee, one for ranged, and one for a special slot. Why is this so hard?

Tomhb, no offense, I think what you're doing is just plain fucking stupid. In counterstrike, there are so many different weapon choices. No idiot plays with only the AK47. No, people choose from guns like M16, Desert Eagle, Colt, Submachine gun, Knife, etc. The difference is, advantages of speed and low damage, or heavy damage and slow speed... or, good accuracy vs crappy accuracy, or... goes through enemies (torque?), you know?

Seriously, what the fuck are you smoking Tomhb? The thing is, this game will rot if all we have to use are classes with no interchangeable weapons. It WILL become boring with no customization.

Edit - Oh, and, by the way, ninja sucks. That little sword thing, lolol. My toothpick has more utility than that dagger or whatever. Ninjas need like grappling hooks, and traps and shit. That's what you're doing Tomhb, you're destroying the foundation of a great idea. Fucker.

I say we get a petition / poll to decide what you should do... Xerios, seriously, just because 2 guys agree on something retarded doesn't mean you should scrap a good idea. I'm sure majority of players will agree if Tomhb doesn't get his hands on brainwashing everyone here about his "strategic failure and destruction of gameplay due to unpredictability" bullshit.

Edit 2 - Oh and Tomhb, this isn't counterstrike or a stupid mmo. This is a click & go game that should actually GIVE you a choice of what to play as, not LOCK you into a single class. Most retarded thing I've heard from you.

Although I would not have worded it like that, I do agree with some of the things Evlesoa said.
The game needs something more to keeps people interested enough to keep playing.

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